"विकिपीडिया:चौपाल": अवतरणों में अंतर

पंक्ति 635:
::::Deleting sub-stub article is not very positive message for the contributors. We need steps to add more contributors and to make hindi wikipedia popular. Quality of content will improve, give it sometime. I got to say that We should not rush and delete those articles overnight. Sure, We will take steps to discourage creation of chain of sub-stub articles. <br />
::::I liked the work of wolf, kingram and almost all the people working here. I just wish that I had lot of time to expand everyone's work. Its hard to keep up with amazing amount of content added so fast. At the same time I have my own choices on which I want to contribute. Come on guys!! lets work together, make it simpler to contribute, improve the quality and at the same time enjoy wikipedia and have some fun too. --[[सदस्य:Mitul0520|मितुल]] २३:२३, २८ मार्च २००७ (UTC)
:::::I think that this "issue" is an amalgam of a lot of issues and bears a lot of significance (even quiet Yann had his say!) as to where we are headed. Here's my take of it all-
:::::*'''Abt 10k''': Although 10k is just a number, it bears a sinificance to many. Its just like the clock striking 00:00:00 into new millenium is just another second, but it has its significance. The people at other wikipedia create a different logo to commemorate such event and even English wikipedia, had a message congratulating all the users/editors. Also, it brings a new confidence to many. I think that even if the oneliners will be deleted a number of times and articles drop to 9000, people will create a lot of "quick articles" to reach 10,000 and then the creation of "quick articles" will decrease drastically. Any such landmarks tend to bring stability. So, I think that it might just be better to keep the article count within 10,000 even if deleting lest there will be these quick articles which might come as multi-liners but of equally poor quality.
:::::*'''Abt oneliners''': We had a discussion on this on the eve of the 1st crossing of 10k(i sound like a historian!). According to the discussion, I believe most of those who participated here wanted to improve the quality of oneliners and substubs. People are trying out ways to tackle this problem. I think that we need to get a rough estimate of these oneliners, then tackle them using bots and manual editors and create a basic framework button which increases the feasibility of multi-liners. From my POV, it might be a good idea to allow a significant amount of time for oneliners to develop and also help in its development rather than deleting them unilaterally. I have deleted many short pages in Nepali wikipedia and have found that I didnt delete just the article but the editor as well. So, lets be a bit flexible about it.
:::::*'''Abt Hindi aspect''': Hindi thrives because it has many people who are not proficient in Hindi working for it. We have Yann, Wolf, King Ram (and to some extent even me) who do not have perfect Hindi yet we are trying to write here. It takes a lot of courage to do this. I have asked a lot of people who have intermediate knowledge of Nepal Bhasa to write at least a few lines in Nepal Bhasa but none of them are ready because they say that "they dont want appear as a fool with bad command over the language". So, I think that we need to keep in mind that we have a lot of editors with intermediate knowledge of Hindi and must allow them some space and much support to work here. A cut-throat "core spirit" of wikipedia might need to be eased a little for the community to proliferate. If the community does not exist, wikipedia wont.
:::::*'''Abt quality''': This is something on which we need to focus at the moment. There are zillions of ways to create useless articles and also to increase number of articles, their depth and other such parameters. As we are in a stable phase now, we need to avoid all that. We specifically need to focus on
:::::*#Research-searching for encyclopedic materials and for ways of improving navigation and editing
:::::*#Factual improvement-adding a lot of citations, searching for the most reliable information
:::::*#Translation- translation of featured content from other wikipedia
:::::*#Navigation-adding of templates, infoboxes and other navigation boxes
:::::*#User friendly-improving system messages and enabling Devnagari perhaps
:::::*#Creation-based on our research, we can create new articles(rather than just translating) and also new edit tools and navigation tools,
:::::Editors, please think about these issues. Thank you.--[[सदस्य:युकेश|युकेश]] ०१:५६, २९ मार्च २००७ (UTC)
 
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