सदस्य वार्ता:Bill william compton/पुरालेख 1

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Welcome

Hi, its good to see you contributing here in Hindi wikipedia, We hope you will continue your efforts for Hindi wikipedia.Thank you--Mayur (talk•Email) ०५:५९, २७ फ़रवरी २०११ (UTC)

Hi I have included you in autopatroller user group of Hindi Wikipedia, Thank you for your nice contributions to hindi Wiki--Mayur (talk•Email) 03:56, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Thanks for this privilege. Bill william compton (वार्ता) 03:58, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Numbers

Please change all Devanagari numbers in the article २०१० एशियाई खेल पदक तालिका to international numbers (Indo-arabic numbers) as per the discussion here. Regards, ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 15:04, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Thanks for telling me, I didn't know about this. I'm not a native in Hindi, so it's very difficult for me to write in this language (numerals specifically, actually I even don't know how to write one in Hindi), you've relieved me; and sorry for my harsh behavior. It's just hours of translation making me mad, please try to forget whatever I said. I always respect my fellow users, and will try to continue that demeanor, Désolé encore une fois. Bill william compton (वार्ता) 15:19, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Hi, I have changed all numerals to international digits. Please feel free to contribute Hindi Wikipedia.We hope you will make many articles like this.Best regards--Mayur (talk•Email) 15:44, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
I see you have already done this, only one was remaining which I did.Thanks--Mayur (talk•Email) 15:46, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Thanks! you forgot to make a redirect over १९९० एशियाई खेल; also would you please tell me about the FLC nomination procedure of Hindi Wikipedia. —Bill william compton (वार्ता) 15:53, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Done, Sorry i couldn't understand what is FLC, is it featured article?--Mayur (talk•Email) 16:00, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Mea culpa, I didn't realize that you might not be familiar with the abbreviations of English Wikipedia. FLC stands for Featured list candidate(s) (I don't know what you people call it in Hindi). So, could you please elaborate the procedure of featured list nomination. One more thing, how users leave talk back message here, on English Wikipedia we've TB template for this, thanks and regards. — Bill william comptonTalk17:19, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
ohh, here it is, For talk back procedure is same as per english Wikipedia--Mayur (talk•Email) 17:23, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Merci encore! — Bill william comptonTalk18:00, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

A barnstar for you!

  The Editor's Barnstar
हिन्दी विकिपीडिया पे विकिपीडिया शैली के अनुसार अच्छे लेखो को बनाने के लिए वैभव जैन की और से भेट। ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 17:29, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
merci mon ami! — Bill william comptonTalk18:00, 17 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Il piacere è mio! ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 10:22, 18 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Medal Table

Hey, i want to make some changes to some changes to the medal table here. The changes are here. Regards, ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 11:05, 18 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Sorry, but I'm lost here, are you asking me to make changes? What's the meaning of this phrase "some changes to some changes". I see you've already made that changes on the article. Sorry but I've reverted them back, because of following reasons:
  1. IOC country codes are standard codes that always should be written in English alphabets only. It doesn't matter what language you are using, whether it is Chinese or Russian.
  2. I could have also added map there, but I didn't, because [again] it violates access policy of Wikipedia.
I hope you'll understand, if you have any more concerns then please participate in the nomination procedure of the article for featured list, thanks. — Bill william comptonTalk12:54, 18 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
The image is present in en wiki article also, we need information available there if we want to make this one a featured here. ♛♚★Vaibhav Jain★♚♛ Talk Email 14:56, 18 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
I appreciate your efforts towards the improvement of this article, but believe me there is no such criteria that article should have annotated map. I'm an active participant of English Wikipedia's FLC process, so I pretty much know how things work there, and eager to implement those high quality standards here also, which IMO is very crummy in comparison to its companion wiki.
For reference check all these featured lists, none of them has any such map:
Actually, except three or so featured lists [of medal table], none of Wikipedia's article has this kind of map; and out of those three featured lists, two are mine creations (en:1982 Asian Games medal table and en:1998 Asian Games medal table). So I request you to focus on other parts of the article, thanks and regards. — Bill william comptonTalk16:13, 18 जुलाई 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें


कृपया हिन्दी में लिखिये

आप अपने परिचय में हिन्दी का 'उन्नत ज्ञान' रखने की घोषणा करते हैं किन्तु व्यवहार में सब जगह अंग्रेजी लिख रहे हैं। इससे हिन्दी के स्वाभिमान को ठेस पहुंच रही है। यहाँ बहुत से ऐसे लोग होंगे जिन्हे अंग्रेजी नहीं आती। अतः आपसे निवेदन है कि अपने संदेश हिन्दी में ही लिखें। -- अनुनाद सिंहवार्ता17:46, 1 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

I can understand Hindi and able to write also, but am actually uncomfortable in keeping the conversation in Hindi [from mine side] unless other user specify his/her inability to understand me. If any user asks me to use Hindi then I won't have any problem for that particular instance (or user). I'd change उन्नत ज्ञान from my user page, because I'm unable to understand Hindi idioms, phrases and words of Urdu, which you people use very often. Also, do languages also have स्वाभिमान, language users might have. — Bill william comptonTalk18:45, 1 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
जी हाँ, भाषाओं का भी स्वाभिमान होता है; उन्हें गुलाम बनाया जाता है; भाषाएँ शासन करती हैं; भाषाओं का उत्थान और पतन होता है; भाषाएँ मरती भी हैं। दूसरी बात - 'from mine side' भी अंग्रेजी व्याकरण की दृष्टि से गलत है जिसे मेरे जैसा अंग्रेजी का सामान्य ज्ञाता भी समझता है किन्तु आप नहीं समझते। तीसरी बात, यदि आप लोगों से हिन्दी में वार्ता करने में असुविधा अनुभव कर रहे हैं तो हिन्दी में क्या और कैसे योगदान कर सकते हैं? -- अनुनाद सिंहवार्ता03:30, 2 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
First thing first, keep your nationalistic POV to yourself. Secondly, I don't need a certificate about my English proficiency from a user who's unable to understand the common terms of English, if you'll start digging everything with a shovel of grammar then you ain't (sorry this is also not correct according to your अंग्रेजी व्याकरण की दृष्टि) going to find everything apprehensible. Third and last, I really don't think that I need an eloquent knowledge of Hindi to make contributions here, what I do here is for the betterment of Hindi Wikipedia and for this I don't need to communicate in Hindi, because I'm not here to chat and with whom I need to talk they understand me; so in spite of engaging into personal remarks do something healthy as these things ain't getting you anywhere sunshine. — Bill william comptonTalk06:20, 2 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

जिज्ञासा

आपके कहे अनुसार मान लेते हैं कि आप अंग्रेजी के अच्छे योगदानकर्ता हैं। कृपया बताएं कि क्या वहाँ के चौपाल पृष्ठ पर अंग्रेजी के अलावा किसी भी अन्य भाषा में संवाद किया जा सकता है? अनिरुद्ध  वार्ता  05:51, 7 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

In the case user feels difficulty with English, and he's active on other language's Wikipedia, not a new/anonymous random user/IP. Also this is not a first time that any user preferred English over Hindi, most of the Indic users understand English very well. I tried to write in Hindi, but for that I've to use Google translator. I've no shame in using Hindi, actually I feel proud that I can use Hindi in my work, but prolong communication in this language is still tricky for me. Maybe someday I'd be able to keep things in Hindi only like you people, until then please forgive me for using an alien language. — Bill william comptonTalk08:33, 7 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

हिंदी के अधिकतर प्रयोक्ता अंग्रेजी भी जानते हैं यह उनकी ताकत है। आप हिंदी नहीं जानते हैं तो भी हम आपके योगदान की सराहना और आपका सम्मान करना जानते हैं। किंतु हिंदी प्रयोक्ताओं को मूर्ख और हिंदी या अन्य किसी भाषआ को अंग्रेजी से पिछड़ी हुई भाषा साबित करने की कोशिश कभी मत कीजिए। बल्कि क्योंकि आप हिंदी नहीं जानते हैं ऐसी प्रतिक्रिया देते समय आपको विशेष सावधानी रखनी चाहिए। अंग्रेजी की विश्वभाषा बनने के पीछे के पिछले 400 वर्षों के कारणों को एक बार अगर आप समझ लें तो अंग्रेजी पर कतई अभिमान नहीं रहेगा। हम हिंदी विकिया पर उन लोगों के लिए काम कर रहे हैं जिन्हें अंग्रेजी सीखने का अवसर तमाम उम्र नहीं मिलता और वे इसके कारण पग पग पर शर्मिंदा होते हैं। अर्थात उन गलतियों की सजा भुगतते हैं जो उन्होंने की ही नहीं हैं। कृपया हिंदी विकिया में अपना योगदान जारी रखें। अनिरुद्ध  वार्ता  08:47, 7 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Please don't take mine support for Indo-Arabic numerals as some kind of insult for Hindi. If I have had any such opinion for Hindi then why would I even contribute at Hindi Wikipedia. I just pointed out some wrong facts which were made at the chopaal. I support non-Devanagari numerals because even for Hindi person they are very uncommon, and I'm saying this with my experience. Like Hindi's newspapers of largest circulation– Dainik Jagaran, Dainik Bhaskar and Navbharat Times also use only Indo-Arabic numerals. So when printed media also has deprecated use of Devanagari numerals then why we'r dragging them here? and these newspapers have readership in Indian villages also, where only it could be a possibility that people only understand Devanagari numerals, and where Wikipedia has void presence. You say I've अभिमान for English, but believe me there is no such thing. I'm polyglot and feel same for all languages, whether it is English, Hindi, French, Sanskrit, Romanian, etc, they all are same for me. But this type of attitude that अंग्रेजी की विश्वभाषा बनने के पीछे के पिछले 400 वर्षों के कारणों को एक बार अगर आप समझ लें तो अंग्रेजी पर कतई अभिमान नहीं रहेगा doesn't seem healthy to me, and I know very better history of English from its Germanic status to Great Vowel Shift, so last 400 years is just a very little period. I'm also aware of history of Hindi from Vedic Sanskrit to Khariboli. If I somehow made you feel offensive then please forgive me, and I'll try my best for the improvement of this captivating language's Wiki, thanks and regards. — Bill william comptonTalk12:13, 7 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

चलिए मिलके विकिया को सँवारते हैं। अनिरुद्ध  वार्ता  17:05, 7 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

New articles

आपका अभिनेता मैट डैमन पर बनाया हुआ लेख देखा। अच्छा है। कुछ छोटे भाषागत सुधार किए हैं। हिंदी विकिया के लिए किए जा रहे आपके प्रयास सचमुच सराहनीय हैं। अनिरुद्ध  वार्ता  15:24, 9 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

धन्यवाद, I'm doing what you suggested on Chopal; by the end of August I'm planning to make as much as stub/start class articles, referencing will do after sometime. May I ask you to correct grammar of these [future] articles? — Bill william comptonTalk15:33, 9 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

विकिसम्मेलन-२०११, भारत

 

नमस्कार Bill william compton,

प्रथम भारतीय विकि सम्मेलन इस वर्ष मुम्बई में १८ -२० नवम्बर २०११ के मध्य आयोजित हो रहा है।
किसी प्रकार की सूचना एवं सहायता हेतु आप हमारी अधिकारिक वेबसाईट, फेसबुक वृत्तांत और छात्रवृति प्रपत्र देख सकते है। (छात्रवृति आवेदन की अन्तिम तिथि १५ अगस्त २०११ है।)

100 day long WikiOutreach के साथ ही अब समस्त गतिविधियाँ शुरु हो रही है।

सम्मेलन में भाग लेने हेतु आमन्त्रण अब शुरु हो गये है, कृपया अपनी प्रविष्टियों को यहाँ जमा करे।(प्रविष्टियां जमा करने की अन्तिम तिथि ३० अगस्त २०११) है।

क्योंकि आप हमारे Wikimedia India community के भाग है इसलिये हम आपको इस सम्मेलन में भाग लेने एवं अपने अनुभव बाँटने हेतु आमन्त्रित करते है। आपके आपके योगदान हेतु धन्यवाद।

हमें आशा है कि आप १८-२० नबम्बर २०११ के मध्य आयोजित इस सम्मेलन में अवश्य भाग लेंगे।

विशेषाधिकार नामांकन

मैनें आपको विशेषाधिकार के अन्तर्गत रोलबैक एवं पुनरीक्षक अधिकार के लिये नामांकित किया है कृपया अपना मत यहां एवं यहां देवें--Mayur (talk•Email) 19:20, 21 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Speedy of चित्र:Mahabharat BR chopra serial.jpg

 
आपके लिए नया सन्देश है
नमस्कार, Bill william compton जी। आपके लिए चित्र वार्ता:Mahabharat BR chopra serial.jpg पर एक सन्देश है।
आप इस सूचना को किसी भी समय मिटा सकते है, इसके लिए वार्ता संपादन में जाकर {{सन्देश}} मिटाएँ।

सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 10:35, 24 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

कृपया चित्र:Mahabharat BR chopra serial.jpg को देखें और यदि अब fair use rationale के अंतर्गत आता हो तो db साँचा हटाएँ। धन्यवाद--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 12:10, 24 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Siddhartha, rationale is correct, but it doesn't satisfy the criteria of "Low Resolution". The rule is that a non-free image shouldn't be any bigger than it needs to be to fulfill its purpose. As it is used in the infobox of the article, the rule of thumb says it's size shouldn't be greater than ~300px. — Bill william comptonTalk14:15, 24 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
 
आपके लिए नया सन्देश है
नमस्कार, Bill william compton जी। आपके लिए चित्र वार्ता:Mahabharat BR chopra serial.jpg पर एक सन्देश है।
आप इस सूचना को किसी भी समय मिटा सकते है, इसके लिए वार्ता संपादन में जाकर {{सन्देश}} मिटाएँ।

--Mayur (talk•Email) 14:53, 24 अगस्त 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Copyright Violations

कृपया सदस्य:Mehboob Desai और सदस्य वार्ता:Mehboob Desai देखें। वार्ता पृष्ठ तो साफ़-साफ़ copyright violation है। मुझे सदस्य पृष्ठ पर भी शक है परंतु अब तक उसका स्रोत नहीं मिला है। अधिक जानकारी के लिये en:Wikipedia:Copyright_problems/2011_September_2#Copyright_investigations_.28manual_article_tagging.29 देखें और आवश्यक कदम उठाएँ।--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 09:21, 2 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

IRC Chat

Please come to IRC chat #wikipedia-hi if possible, in relation to चित्र:HPBOOK.jpg.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 10:30, 3 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

आपके लिये एक सम्मान!

  The Anti-Vandalism Barnstar(विध्वंस-रोधक बार्न-स्टार)
For your tremendous fighting against vandalism and Copyvio attempts Mayur (talk•Email) 17:05, 19 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
  Thank you! — Bill william comptonTalk13:15, 22 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Request

कृपया साँचा:देश आँकड़े वालिस और फ़्यूचूना और साँचा:देश आँकड़े वालिस और फुटूना देखें और गलत वर्तनी को सही वर्तनी पर अनुप्रेषित कर दें। धन्यवाद--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 09:22, 22 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

साथ ही कृपया देखें कि क्या en:Mayotte की सही वर्तनी मायोत है? अंग्रेज़ी विकिपीडिया पर दिये उच्चारण के अनुसार यह शायद मैयॉट होनी चाहिए। कृपया सही वर्तनी बताएँ। धन्यवाद--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 09:31, 22 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

मायोत is completely wrong, मैयॉट is roughly correct if the standard Midwestern English dialect is taken into consideration, also similar in Cascadian English. But in French it would be equal to मेयोट, so IMO it should be मेयोट because what French people call it matters more than American. — Bill william comptonTalk13:02, 22 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता

सभी दिए गए तथ्य विभिन्न अख़बारों से लिए गए हे इस पर बहस की आवश्यकता नहीं | दूसरा बात यह की में इस लेख को उचित तारिके से दिखाना छह रहा था सो कुछ संपादन करना पड़ा जो की सिफ लुक और फील की लिए था | इस लिए कुछ
लगाये थे वे बाद में ठीक नहीं दिख रहे थे किन्तु तथ्यात्मक चीजों को आगे से न हठाये |--Vivek prakash (वार्ता) 14:59, 24 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

सन्देश

 
आपके लिए नया सन्देश है
नमस्कार, Bill william compton जी। आपके लिए साँचा वार्ता:हिन्दी हाइकु पर एक सन्देश है।
आप इस सूचना को किसी भी समय मिटा सकते है, इसके लिए वार्ता संपादन में जाकर {{सन्देश}} मिटाएँ।

एक साथ कई लेखों की उल्लेखनियता की समस्या। इनपर सही कदम क्या होगा, कृपया टिप्पणी करें।--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 19:08, 24 सितंबर 2011 (UTC) सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 19:08, 24 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता

में तुम से पूछता हूँ की छद्म निरपेक्षता से सम्बंधित वह चित्र हटाने के पीछे कोई कारण बताओ | दूसरी बात तुम ने पेज को ही हटाने की संस्तुति कर दी | कोई विशेष कारण या छद्म धर्मनिरपेक्षता का उपयोग इस लेख में भी किया जा रहा हे |--Vivek prakash (वार्ता) 15:12, 25 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें


वालेरी लेवोनेव्स्किय

This article was translated by a professional translator from Russian to Hindi. Then it was checked by 2 more translators who confirmed its accuracy. Why the article was deleted? --Doctor25 (वार्ता) 17:51, 25 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

The translation is very poor, even worse. I don't know who's your professional translator but believe me it's really bad. I'm resurrecting it back but with one condition that I would translate it to a proper stub. — Bill william comptonTalk23:13, 25 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Well, Bill, thank you. At present I can see only a shortened version of the article. Can you please make it a bit longer? We really want to contribute to Hindi Wikipedia but cannot comply with your standards at the moment.
Regards, Doc
Doc, if you really want to contribute on Hindi Wikipedia then you can help us in fighting vandalism, because for this you don't need an eloquent grip on Hindi. We've few non-Hindi users who do fantastic job, even I'm also not a native Hindi. To identify and revert vandalism you may check "हाल में हुए परिवर्तन" (recent changes) on you left side panel of the screen. Few easily recognizable examples of vandalism, which don't require knowledge of language are:
  1. Repeated characters — Like गगगगगग ररररररररररर.
  2. Long sentences — Like "येरतत्घ्तथरथसर र्गेर्गेररेगेरद्र्ग्र्गजज र्ह्रःरहःत्र्ह्रथ्त्रघ्रेगःथ्त्रर्थ्येर्तर्थ्येर्ह्यह्यततर, Hindi language usually does't has such long words.
  3. Adding meaningless images
  4. Non-Hindi articles or para/sentences, most easiest way to recognize vandalism.
I hope you'd like to stay. And for your request to expand article, I'm unable to do so, because even its English version is also very poorly written. There's no cohesiveness, sentences are written like chronological facts and English is poor. Sorry for that. — Bill william comptonTalk13:59, 26 सितंबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

IRC

Can you come to IRC-HindiWiki for small deletion discussion-Mayur (talk•Email) 17:00, 2 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Images

File:Banting1.png

Per this, the image seems to be in the public domain. However, some conditions may be found here and here. The full resolution file may be found here.

File:Banting2.jpg

Per this, this too is in the public domain. Its from the same source and with the same conditions. The full resolution file may be found here.

Could you tag these images with appropriate copyright tags? I'm unaware of Canadian and US copyright law.

Also, more files regarding the same subject can be seen here. Would it be appropriate to upload all these(in full resolution) to commons?

Thanks--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 18:13, 8 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Re:commons:File:Fredrick banting.jpg from the same source is PD.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 18:17, 8 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
These all images [taken in the Dominion of Canada] are in public domain as per copyright act of Canada (Crown copyright). Uploading them on Commons would be a good idea. — Bill william comptonTalk18:36, 8 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
I've just uploaded one. — Bill william comptonTalk20:14, 8 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

image of Saint Paul's Church

Dear Bill, I have uploaded a file which is about 140 years old and I don't think it is copyrighted anymore. Why is it to be deleted when it is available in free domain? (please read my contest statement) I am not much aware about the policy with regard to file uploads on Wiki, but I usually take utmost care while uploading a file on Wiki. In the present case I request you to do the requisite as you have ample knowledge with regards to legal issues. Dinesh smita (वार्ता) 12:56, 12 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Hi Dinesh, it's absolutely veridical that this image is in public domain. But you should follow a right procedure for uploading images on Wikipedia or Commons. I'd suggest few mandatory points to remember whenever you upload any image from anywhere:
  • Always mention the source of file; in this file's case you should have given that website's link as a source.
  • Date of the work — the "day" when image was taken.
  • Author — Who took the image?, a proper attribution to original author is must.
On this image, Indian Copyright Act, 1957, is applicable, according to which "any photograph published more than 60 years ago—means before January 1, 1951—in India would be in public domain. So, this image is certainly in public domain in India at least, but for its inter-project usability I'll re-upload it on Commons with proper description and attribution. — Bill william comptonTalk15:50, 12 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
If I may add a note: "published more than 60 years ago". It would also be very nice if there is information that tells us where and when it was published. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 15:17, 4 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Definitely, you can also check the concerned File:St Paul's Church Ambala Haryana - c1868.jpg, which now has a satisfactory description. — Bill william comptonTalk15:26, 4 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Deletions of files without a license

Hi! I noticed that you have allready deleted a lot of files without a license :-) And I noticed that you also check before you delete :-D Regarding this edit the file is an unused duplicate of चित्र:Amitprabhakar1.JPG so I think it should be safe to delete. Also in time even userpage images should have a license but I did not nominate files for deletion if they were in use. I think it is better to take it slow step by step. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 15:18, 24 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

I've deleted one copy, but I'm still reluctant to delete other files under user space because IMO (& as per Wikipedia process?) uploader of the file should be notified for the possible deletion, but here we're not following the protocol. Also, it's not easy task to teach Hindi users about licensing, copyrights, non-free use rationale, etc, and deleting these types of files without notifying them would make things worse – out of the frying pan and into the fire! — Bill william comptonTalk15:50, 24 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Yes I agree that informing uploader would be best. The reason I did not inform uploaders about the deletion nominations is 1) I do not know which template you use on hindi, 2) I do not speak the language, 3) the files were not used so they will probably not be missed and 4) there is a chance that uploader has the files on their watchlist and perhaps also has "E-mail me when a page on my watchlist is changed" marked.
When it comes to the files there is used it should be possible to get a bot inform the uploaders with a "Hi. You have uploaded these files without a license. Could you please help add a license?" and then after some times the files could be nominated for deletion if no license has been added.
Perhaps it would be good to add a template on all the files without a license that helps uploader to add a license? That would be more visible than just adding the file in a category. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 19:27, 24 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
  1. Unfortunately there is no such template to warn the users (written in Hindi). As you tag files with the help of bot, I suggest you to use any template written in English or French and I'll translate it into Hindi.
  2. No problem, Hindi is also not my native language, but I can contribute in it at advanced level. So, I will be more than happy to help you.
  3. Agree, but most of the Hindi users also treat Wikipedia as repository of images. They usually don't upload files on Commons—don't know why—so, deleting files of encyclopedic values would be a loss of project. Although there is very less probability that these files would be from genuine sources but you can't be sure. Surprisingly Hindi administrators (except one) also know nothing about image use policy of Wikipedia. I've seen one case recently when one admin was suggesting other users on chopal (village pump) to download files from internet and upload them on Wikipedia after making few changes like size, color, etc, with the help of paint, so that these types of files could be avoided for deletion. So, after such instances I'm pretty sure of one thing explaining anything to these users is like casting pearls before swine.
  4. Extremely rare chance, even active users don't respond forget about part-time users.
Notifying users on their talk page will be more appropriate. — Bill william comptonTalk14:33, 25 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Files on Commons

Hi! Perhaps you could have a look on the few files left in श्रेणी:Images on Wikimedia Commons. As far as I can tell the files are used in protected pages. So we need an admin to change the protected pages before the files can be deleted. My plan is to notify the uploaders of the unused files we talked about earlier (#Deletions of files without a license) when the NowCommons files are deleted. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 19:40, 31 अक्टूबर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

I've deleted a few. — Bill william comptonTalk14:41, 5 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

सन्देश

 
आपके लिए नया सन्देश है
नमस्कार, Bill william compton जी। आपके लिए विकिपीडिया:विशिष्ट सदस्यता हेतु निवेदन पर एक सन्देश है।
आप इस सूचना को किसी भी समय मिटा सकते है, इसके लिए वार्ता संपादन में जाकर {{सन्देश}} मिटाएँ।

Mayur (talk•Email) 16:27, 4 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Request for Vote

Please Give your vote at Deletion policy discussion so that we may declare a non controversial part as our policy--Mayur (talk•Email) 16:31, 4 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Files nominated for deletion

Hi! I have a list of files nominated for deletion here: सदस्य:MGA73/Sandbox. I asked for help to translate the text at the top of the page. My idea is to inform all the uploaders that one or more of their files are nominated for deletion and give them the list. :-) --MGA73 (वार्ता) 19:33, 4 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

This is a great idea, and I'm in process of deleting unlicensed files, but it will take hell lot of time. — Bill william comptonTalk14:37, 5 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
I noticed that you delete a lot of files :-) I suggest we start with the unused and then take files copied from another wiki and then give users of the remaining files a notice. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 15:54, 5 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Also thank you for your help on my talk page. I have added an editnotice now informing users that I do not understand Hindi. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 18:10, 6 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
If you could help watch the changes made on files for example this and any replies on the user talk pages it would be a great help. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 19:22, 6 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
I'll try to keep pace, but I don't think we need to entertain these kind of actions as IMO removing deletion tag is just a vandalism. I'd notify them as per notification hierarchy (level 1, 2..). — Bill william comptonTalk04:23, 7 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

सन्देश

 
आपके लिए नया सन्देश है
नमस्कार, Bill william compton जी। आपके लिए विकिपीडिया:निर्वाचित सूची उम्मीदवार पर एक सन्देश है।
आप इस सूचना को किसी भी समय मिटा सकते है, इसके लिए वार्ता संपादन में जाकर {{सन्देश}} मिटाएँ।

सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 18:47, 6 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Angelina Jolie

As hindi wiki is seeking for its next featured article I shall be happy if we can work on Angelina Jolie article and make it our next featured article, Cheers--Mayur (talk•Email) 05:38, 7 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

I think first step is to remove red links thereafter I shall correct grammatical errors but red links are in plenty so Should we made hindi article for each or just redirecting them to en article.--Mayur (talk•Email) 06:05, 7 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Mayur, thanks for being heedful. As you may know already, I've been working on Angelina Jolie, for this my target is to create around 50 articles. Redirecting to another language's wiki is not a good idea actually it would show our incompetency to create a featured content on Hindi Wikipedia. We don't need to hurry, but it would be really helpful if you look at the grammar, spellings, and citations (for which you can copy-paste from English Wikipedia), rest (adding content, creating article for each red-link, etc) I'll handle. — Bill william comptonTalk08:36, 7 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

FLC

Can you review this FLC? वैभव जैन वार्ता ईमेल 08:49, 7 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

सन्देश

 
आपके लिए नया सन्देश है
नमस्कार, Bill william compton जी। आपके लिए विकिपीडिया:निर्वाचित सूची उम्मीदवार पर एक सन्देश है।
आप इस सूचना को किसी भी समय मिटा सकते है, इसके लिए वार्ता संपादन में जाकर {{सन्देश}} मिटाएँ।

सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 18:51, 8 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Just a note. You missed two points. 2nd and 11th on my original corrections list.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 21:28, 13 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Empty Categories

Could you please have a look at विशेष:WhatLinksHere/Template:db-c1. It lists some categories I tagged for speedy deletion over 15 days ago, but they're for some reason, not showing up in श्रेणी:शीघ्र हटाने योग्य श्रेणियाँ. I cannot understand why this is happening, and this problem has occured before too with this template. Could you have a look what's wrong? Thanks.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 15:02, 10 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Fixed – I think it's fixed now. The "all" parameter of {{category handler}} has given an argument in the form of parser function. The template supposed to place the page in some reserved space as soon as timestamp value expires but there wasn't any reserved space, which I've provided by creating a new category and modifying the argument. — Bill william comptonTalk16:01, 10 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Thanks a lot.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 17:26, 10 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
It's my pleasure. — Bill william comptonTalk17:38, 10 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Deletion of Empty Categories

Hi, I created thousands of year category to add them to our year categories Now I think there is no use of such category what do you say? Should we delete these categories--Mayur (talk•Email) 16:11, 10 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Verifiability

Would a link to the CIA world factbook be enough to verify the articles listed in साँचा:जर्मनी के राज्य and साँचा:अफ़ग़ानिस्तान के प्रांत? I'm asking since I could not find the factbook in hindi. So would the english factbook be enough to verify the spelling? Or just that these are, in fact, states/provinces of these countries? Thanks.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 21:04, 10 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Where do you need to provide a link? How would you verify spellings in Hindi through CIA Factbook?, Deutsch has very different pronunciations than English. Deutsch has a strict correspondence between written and spoken language (like in template बादेन should be बाडेन), on the contrary English has so intricate pronunciation rules. Also, template of German States is incomplete, check here for complete list (it's a federal government's website). Hamburg, Berlin and Bremen are city-states, so they also need a space. I don't know much about Afghanistan, but for that Factbook would be sufficient. — Bill william comptonTalk12:21, 11 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
All the articles listed in these two navboxes are one-line articles with no sources(hence not verifiable). I wanted to improve them by adding a reference for this one line as a first step before adding any other text. But the problem is that I can't seem to be able to find any references for them in hindi. Hence, I was wondering if the factbook(in english) would do. If not, how do we verify the basic information that "XYZ is a state/city-state/province of Germany/Afganistan?"(that is all that the articles say, as of now). The problem in question isn't whether the template's complete or not(it isn't? Gofixit :) ); but how to make these, and the huge number of other such one-line articles verifiable, since many(like these) are on clearly notable topics with hard-to-find hindi references.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 13:16, 11 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Mea culpa! I thought you wanted to improve these templates, like spellings, rightness, etc. For verifiability there is no need of Hindi sources, as per guideline of different languages Wikipedias (fe, es, de): "we should give priority to Hindi (for Hindi Wikipedia) sources if they are available, fulfills Wikipedia criteria of reliability, accessibility (by at least one mean), etc, over non-Hindi sources. If these types of Hindi sources are not available then we can cite sources in any language". So, you are free to cite CIA Factbook or any other source for that matter. But if you're going to improve those articles then also check the correct spellings. — Bill william comptonTalk03:52, 12 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Ok, so the factbook and/or other language reliable sources are good enough for verifiability. As for the spelling, I'll try my best to correct them, but words of other languages(such as german state names) will be hard to get the correct spellings of; unless we can find IPA on the source language wikipedia. Thanks for the help.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 14:15, 13 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

French(?) Infoboxes

are currently unused. Are these useful? Or can they be replaced by some other infoboxes?--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 20:42, 11 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Except ville other two are in Portuguese. God knows why they were even copied here. Two are infoboxes similar to {{ज्ञानसन्दूक अवस्थापन}} and Instruções da predefinição is a deprecated template from Portuguese Wikipedia. And funny thing is that both ville and cidade are respective French and Portuguese translations of city. They are completely useless and their counterpart are already available. — Bill william comptonTalk04:21, 12 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Nominated Cidade and Ville for speedy deleteion. What about Instruções da predefinição? Do we need a discussion on that? Or should that be speedily deleted too? Thanks.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 08:20, 12 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Deleted all, Instruções da predefinição, as a name suggests, was made [on Portuguese Wikipedia] to transfer templates into some default space (category), but here it had content of infobox city—absurd. — Bill william comptonTalk17:15, 12 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

सन्देश

 
आपके लिए नया सन्देश है
नमस्कार, Bill william compton जी। आपके लिए विकिपीडिया:चौपाल पर एक सन्देश है।
आप इस सूचना को किसी भी समय मिटा सकते है, इसके लिए वार्ता संपादन में जाकर {{सन्देश}} मिटाएँ।

Mayur (talk•Email) 09:29, 13 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

सन्देश

 
आपके लिए नया सन्देश है
नमस्कार, Bill william compton जी। आपके लिए विकिपीडिया:चौपाल पर एक सन्देश है।
आप इस सूचना को किसी भी समय मिटा सकते है, इसके लिए वार्ता संपादन में जाकर {{सन्देश}} मिटाएँ।

सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 14:27, 13 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

सन्देश

 
आपके लिए नया सन्देश है
नमस्कार, Bill william compton जी। आपके लिए विकिपीडिया:चौपाल पर एक सन्देश है।
आप इस सूचना को किसी भी समय मिटा सकते है, इसके लिए वार्ता संपादन में जाकर {{सन्देश}} मिटाएँ।

Please comment regarding a new upload form. सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 14:28, 13 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

श्रेणी:Non Licensed Images uploaded by Rajeevmass and similar categories

Hi!

We talked about this category earlier. I'm just wondering if the files should be nominated for deletion or putting them in a category is enough? The user is blocked and can therefore never fix the license.

I made similar categories for other users. What do you think we should do about them? I informed the uploaders. Is that enough? Should we add a deletion tag on all the files later?

I think deleting all the files after 2 weeks is a bad idea. The best would be if uploader added a correct license. But if that is not done others could take the images one by one and check if there is a free replacement on xx-wiki or Commons, add a fair use-tag if relevant. And if not then delete the file.

Ideas? --MGA73 (वार्ता) 18:43, 16 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Hi Michael, unfortunately most of the images on Hindi Wikipedia are taken from internet, so If you haven't noticed yet, this is a reason that almost none of the images has been saved. Talking about this particular user (who once was an admin here), all the images are copyrighted except चित्र:Nehru15.jpg which albeit should be deleted for not having license, source, etc, but is in public domain ({{PD-India}}) and I'm pretty sure it's already present on Commons. Adding a fair use-tag is also not an option because non-free images aren't allowed to be used on templates, like चित्र:CricketAustraliaLogo.png—logo of Cricket Australia is used in {{ऑस्ट्रेलियाई क्रिकेट खिलाड़ी}} (Australian cricket players) template. All the rest pictures are either available on Commons/English Wikipedia or can be replaced, which I'll do slowly and steadily. — Bill william comptonTalk01:41, 18 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Hi Bill. Yes I noticed :-( I will not add a deletion-tag on the images per your comment above. I'm not sure I can help replace the images but on articles with an interwiki link I can try. Let me know if you think there is something I can do. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 15:55, 18 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Hi Michael, I think for your work assigning your bot to Botadmin Group will be better you can easily replace or rename images.
@Bill, What do you think should we assign him Botadmin Flag if you have no objection i shall assign him as i m not active in hi wiki now a days and have tired after deleting 75000 empty categories pages by twinkle:-)--Mayur (talk•Email) 18:05, 18 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Yes that would make things easier. Either that or give my regular account additional rights (am a sysop at da, en, lb, ms and Commons). By the way, can you delete 75000 categories in one "run" with Twinkle? A pywikipedia bot can. But I guess deleting that much is not something you do every day :-) --MGA73 (वार्ता) 21:54, 18 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Undoubtedly, promotion to botadmin privilege will make things approachable for him. — Bill william comptonTalk01:39, 19 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
@Michael, I have given botadmin flag to your bot. Now you can do all those due work. A pywikipedia bot don't completely support hindi language so I used TW in many runs(40-50).:-)--Mayur (talk•Email) 07:19, 19 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Thank you both :-) --MGA73 (वार्ता) 09:52, 19 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Bill. I took many of the easy files in the category and left the harder ones for you ;-) --MGA73 (वार्ता) 13:13, 19 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Good work with the files :-) --MGA73 (वार्ता) 19:21, 22 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

YEAH :-) I just deleted the category - you have fixed all the files :-) If you give me a tip which category you plan to work on next I would be happy to see if I can help. --MGA73bot (वार्ता) 21:09, 25 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

How about श्रेणी:Non Licensed Images uploaded पूर्णिमा वर्मन. — Bill william comptonTalk21:34, 25 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Sure... :-) --MGA73 (वार्ता) 15:30, 26 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Which template do you use on film covers? Like File:Skb.jpg --MGA73 (वार्ता) 16:04, 26 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
For now, you may use {{Non-free use rationale poster}} (for posters of course). I recently copied it from en-wiki to upload a non-free image on some user's request. — Bill william comptonTalk00:12, 27 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

सन्देश

 
आपके लिए नया सन्देश है
नमस्कार, Bill william compton जी। आपके लिए Mayur के वार्ता पृष्ठ पर एक सन्देश है।
आप इस सूचना को किसी भी समय मिटा सकते है, इसके लिए वार्ता संपादन में जाकर {{सन्देश}} मिटाएँ।

--Mayur (talk•Email) 13:45, 22 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

hey hi, I need images.

Hi, since you are a confirmed user can you please upload the images for these articles from their corresponding English articles? I'm still unconfirmed user on this wiki :(

ASHUIND 23:37, 24 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

I've uploaded non-free images for infoboxes under non-free image usage policy of Wikipedia. — Bill william comptonTalk00:11, 25 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

आपके लिए वीडियो गेम्स‎ बार्नस्टार

  वीडियो गेम्स‎ बार्नस्टार
Thanks for adding images to the articles who needed it. ASHUIND 07:58, 25 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Thanks, and as always, feel free to ask anything. — Bill william comptonTalk09:27, 25 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Sure. There are still many infoboxes present for same purpose, will contact you soon to discuss what to do about them, just waiting to be autoconfirmed till then. Have written so many articles on English Wiki, will be able to convert them soon after that, till then my progress is little slow :( ASHUIND 16:16, 25 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Regarding image licence

I noticed an option to provide like to corresponding images on english wiki to avoid licensing issues. Same thing is told on our talk page too. ASHUIND 21:48, 25 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Avoid such things. The file you uploaded is a non-free image and we have very strict rules and regulations to use them. Like image should only be used if it increases the reading experience/understanding of user, which can't be done just by words alone. Non-free images should always have source, author/owner info, etc, means a justification for their usage—non-fair use rationale must be provided along with proper license. — Bill william comptonTalk03:20, 26 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Ohk, It was the only Image i guess I didnt provided sources. ASHUIND 05:49, 26 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Congratulations

  Congratulations for being Sr. User of Hindi Wikipedia.We all shall enjoy to work with you for a long time.Cheers Mayur (talk•Email) 06:51, 28 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Merci Mayur. — Bill william comptonTalk10:11, 28 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

a problem

go to this page समुंदर के लुटेरे: मुर्दे का खज़ाना. The first link under other language wiki says "english" but it points to some template. Can you find out where the problem is? आशूबातकरें 16:38, 28 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Fixed. — Bill william comptonTalk19:57, 28 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें


Article deletion

Remove this one प्रक्रतिक गैस. Thanks. आशूबातकरें 15:20, 29 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें

Ashliveslove, you don't need to peculiarly ask for the deletion of articles. I always periodically check the श्रेणी:शीघ्र हटाने योग्य पृष्ठ. — Bill william comptonTalk01:33, 30 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
Ohk, no problem with that, just thought of reminding. Wasn't aware that one really goes through deletion page. Thanks anyways. आशूबातकरें 09:23, 30 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)उत्तर दें
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